The Argument Of Bots Vs Players And The Impact On Mafia Wars

Today, 08:56 PM

FionaWG  Lovable Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: Yelling "Allez Cuisine!" Posts: 12,631

Franky, you forgot to include the link for Terms of Service that people can actually look it up for themselves. http://www.zynga.com/about/terms-of-service.php Now it's a long page to be reading through and to scan through the legal jargon to sort through what point you were trying to make, but here's a few screenshots of ToS that people need to understand that Zynga actually says it. Quote: Originally Posted by Franky C  CHEATING AND HACKING - You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: d. Use cheats, exploits, automation software, bots, hacks, mods or any unauthorized third-party software designed to modify or interfere with the Service, any Zynga Game or any Zynga game experience; 1.9. License Limitations Quote: Originally Posted by Franky C  Yes it is clearly defined in the TOS 1.10. Suspension and Termination of Account and Service WITHOUT LIMITING ANY OTHER REMEDIES, ZYNGA MAY LIMIT, SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE ACCOUNTS OR ACCESS TO ZYNGA SERVICES OR PORTIONS THEREOF IF YOU ARE, OR ZYNGA SUSPECTS THAT YOU ARE, FAILING TO COMPLY WITH ANY OF THESE TERMS OF SERVICE Quote: Originally Posted by Calder12  1. Bots aren't cheating. 2. Bots aren't bad for the servers. 3. Bots are good for Zynga's profits. Conclusion. No one cares, least of all Zynga. 1. Now, sayings Bots aren't cheating isn't entirely accurate. Bots are simply computer programs to play the game for you. It's people who are cheating. 2. Yes it can be bad for the servers, it places demands on the servers to keep up with the speed of bots. It also states in ToS as I have shown in screenshot above and I will quote it below. g. Disrupt, overburden, or aid or assist in the disruption or overburdening of (1) any computer or server used to offer or support the Service or any Zynga game environment (each a "Server"); or (2) the enjoyment of the Service or any Zynga game by any other person; 3. How are BOTS good for Zynga's profits? Last I checked, it's people using bots and they are the ones paying out of their own pocket to pay to play this game. Bots have nothing to do with it in regards Zynga's profits. Conclusion: People care very much about what is going on with this game, thus many threads about this subject on forums. Zynga is not going to come flat out and say that Bots are bad, or good or it's allowed or whatever. As Nate has said in Live Chats in the past, it's use at your own risk. Zynga knows bots are used in the game. As for anything done about them, behind the scenes, who knows. __________________ Welcome to the SHARK TANK!!!! Why am I being attacked by levels 1000's higher than me?(Updated) Get Satisfaction:http://getsatisfaction.com/mafia_wars

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FionaWG  Lovable Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: Yelling "Allez Cuisine!" Posts: 12,631

Quote: Originally Posted by Dex1987  I would ask, why not use the bot that everyone is using? i mean surely you have "better things to do" than to go searching for other bots? Just because everyone is using them doesn't mean that I have to. This game can be played without using bots. If you are going to be using bots to play the game for you, why are you even "playing" at all? You aren't. Soon this game will be bots vs. bots instead of player vs. player.  __________________ Welcome to the SHARK TANK!!!! Why am I being attacked by levels 1000's higher than me?(Updated) Get Satisfaction:http://getsatisfaction.com/mafia_wars

Many People May Find It Difficult To Win Wars, Help In Wars, Complete Missions And Even Level Up As Fast As Others. Those Who Seem To Have It Easier May Find Themselves Being Accused Of Cheating. The Fact Is That Many Are Not Cheating. 

Most Of This Illusion Boils Down To Skill Point Distribution. There Are Many Ways To Distribute Your Skill Points. You Can Apply Them Evenly, As I Do. Many Players Apply A Majority Of Their Skill Points To Attack And Stamina. Many Others Apply Their Skill Points To Energy. 

There Is Another Aspect Of The Game That Many Do Not Even Know About. That Aspect Is Skill Point Re-Allocation. This Has Been Explained Before. The Basics Are To Build Items In Your City Shops That Have Attached Health Skill Points. Players Then Save Up Rp's Or Purchase Game Cards, etc Then Wait For Zynga To Have A Sale That Allows You To Re-Allocate Your Skill Points. Those That Take Advantage Of This Sale Can Accrue 60 Skill Points A Day That Can Be Added To Attack, Defense, Energy, Or Stamina. The Reality Is That Nothing Has Been Re-Allocated. It Is, In Fact, A Built In Cheat For The Fortunate Ones Who Get To Take This Advantage.

Wars. I Have 1500+ Facebook Friends Where Most Are Daily Players. When I Post Wars To The Facebook Wall The War Is Over In Seconds. Since The Family Feature Started I Now Copy And Paste My Mafia Wars Profile In A Chat Group That Only Has My Family Members In The Group. If My Family Group Don't Help Fast Enough I Then Post The War To My Wall. In Either Case, The Wars Are Over In Under A Minute Or So. I Can See How Some May Think Bots And Scripts Are Being Used. The Fact Is That They Are Not. 

The Cold Hard Facts About Bots; I Can Rapid Fire With My Index Finger Faster On My Mouse Pad Than  Bot Can Attack A Player On The Fight Page. I Have Received Warning Message After Warning Message From Zynga About Having Irregular Activity Being Detected In My Account For Using My Index Finger Too Quickly. The Bots Actually Slow Fighting Down. They Do Not Guarantee A Fight Win. All They Do Is Save You From Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. 

The Internet Only Works As Fast As Your CPU Speed, Your Internet Connection Speed, The Speed Of the Servers And None Of These Are Instantaneous. The Bots Still Fall Within These Guidelines. You Truly Can't Tell  Who Is Or Isn't Using A Script Or Bot Just Because You Have Difficulty Winning Or Helping In A War Or Fight. 

My Suggestion For Those Who Want To Accuse Others Of Using Third Party Means To Play The Game Need To Either Change Their Tactics And The Way they Play Or Start Using The Scripts And Bots So You Find Out First Hand That There Truly Aren't Any Real Advantages To Using Them.